Jamaica’s bad behaving school children!

19 02 2008
Jamaican teachers have taken a stand that they will no longer tolerate the impish, rude, violent and classless behaviour which takes place in our schools. The story of the Ocho Rios High School teacher is the straw that has seemed to have broken the camel’s back. A male teacher was accosted by a student’s father and uncle and duly threatened. However, the parent, one Mr. Cobb is defending his position saying that he did not threaten the teacher. The situation is well outlined in today’s Observer at:
The story begins where a young student was caught cheating during an examination. The examiner asked him to hand in the paper which he refused to do. Instead he attempted to hand it in at the end of the exam. When the teacher refused to accept it he went for his big brother who came in and bullied the teacher, trying to force him to accept the paper. What a cheek! Then weeks later, the same teacher was at the gate collecting entrance fees for a musical taking place….again the big brother was up to no good. He tried to force himself in without paying. Then the father and uncle of the unruly imp decided to go and deal with the matter themselves. To show you how the society has sunk to an all time low, the father addressed the teacher as ‘big man, I come to find out what wrong and why you chuck mi son”, followed by his brother who said “if it was out a road a would a different supp’m”. The father did not view this as a threatening stance whatsoever and claimed the teacher was not threatened.
Now seriously, is it any wonder why Jamaica is the way it is? This is what school has come to. Parents now want to beat the teacher. Parents themselves have no social skills and therefore cannot pass them on to their children. This is why I would never teach in the public system. As I have said in a previous post, teaching is not just imparting the subject matter. It is about disciplining people’s “bad bruk pickney” and being a counsellor, parent, confidante rolled into one. Personally these children belong in a boot camp and not a school……and let me say it’s an all round problem…..because if they aren’t trying to kick the teacher in the groin, they want to spit in their water. This is a national problem and not a “uptown/downtown” or “rural/urban” problem. As we have seen in the case of a prominent uptown school, children will spit in your water and force you to drink it. These are the beasts we have in our schools now. More power to the teachers, because I wouldn’t be caught dead in these classrooms and at the rate we are going, home schooling will soon be the classroom of choice. I wouldn’t want my children to interact with half the children around the island!
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20 02 2008
jdid

I taught high school for a few months years ago and I never want to do that again. Is School man and woman now not school chile.

Also this story reminds me of a great teacher I had when I was at primary school. Apparently he had, before my time, once reprimanded a student only to have the students mother and father come to the school and beat the crap out of him. Unruly parent behavior aint nothing new.

20 02 2008
No Nonsense

I don’t understand! What do you mean they spit in the teacher’s water? What’s going on? I am confuse

20 02 2008
Esteban Agosto Reid

The corrosive breakdown and disintegration of the family as an institution in Jamaica, and the concomitant lack of ability of parents/families to transfer appropriate values generationally,and to act as proper socializing agents for children have impacted tremendously in a negative manner on how children behave and conduct themselves within the various educational settings and environments across the island.Consequently,in educational environments, it is the teachers that/who are on the frontline when it comes to experiencing the sundry forms of anti-social behaviour, tendencies, and pathologies exhibited by students.Increasingly,such anti-social behaviours are now manifesting themselves in violent forms towards teachers and in numerous instances condoned, rationalized, glamourized and supported by irrational parents and guardians as evidenced recently at Ocho Rios High School. Certainly, it is imperative that teachers and their professional organizations, unions, and etc. take a concrete and solid stand against such anti-social and violent behavior on the part of students and parents. And indeed, the larger communities and civil society must, and I repeat must be more supportive of our overworked and under remunerated teachers, who are no longer preoccupied with the teaching of students,but they have now become parents, counsellors,security guards and just about everything to these troubled and under socialized students.The dialogue between parents and teachers should/must increase, with the parents becoming more pro-active in this regard via the various Parent Teachers Association (PTA).Indeed, if parents are of the perspective that a given student or students are not being treated fairly by a given teacher vis-a-vis the rules and regulations established by the school in question and the Ministry of Education, there are definitely mechanisms and avenues for recourse, appeal, remedy etc.,namely: the principal of the school ; the school board or trust ; the Ministry of Education, and certainly even legal recourse if warranted, as opposed to threatening, intimidating and violently assaulting and attacking teachers. With respect to students who are clinically sociopaths, they need to be totally removed from the school environment and placed in settings that can facilitate and accomodate them until resocialized. Jamaican society needs to be much more supportive and respectful of its teachers, because in essence they are the fulcrum and base of the society.RESPECT!!

20 02 2008
jamaicangirl2007

No Nonsense: Some Immaculate High School students spat in a teacher’s glass of water and watched her drink it (the teacher didn’t know as she was being distracted by another student purposely). You see these nasty azz kids come from ALL walks of life…..and that one in particular…her father…is a “big man” around town…you see they get by because they “think” they’re up there.

21 02 2008
Global Voices Online » Jamaica: School’s Out

[...] tolerate the impish, rude, violent and classless behaviour which takes place in our schools”: Jamaican Lifestyle blogs about the island's “bad behaving school children.” time [...]

21 02 2008
No Nonsense

HORRIBLE! Its way pass “bad broke”. It’s lack of basic humanity and self respect. All of us at some point during our school years have been upset by some teacher but decency wouldn’t allow us to debase him/her in such a way. It’s one thing to think about doing harm to someone but it’s another to carry out some hateful act. It now borders on sociopathic.

Do we have a generation of sociopaths?

21 02 2008
Esteban Agosto Reid

Yes, indeed No Nonsense, we do have a generation of sociopaths!!

1 03 2008
mad bull

I am trying to remember the worst things we did to teachers back in my day…

I remember that one teacher had french peanut spread on their chair, but this was not something I saw… I only heard about it.

I remember one or two women teachers were groped… one such case led to the teacher’s boyfriend (also a teacher at the school) putting a beating on the groper.

I remember one teachers car tires were slashed. Can’t remember if the duco was scratched up as well…

I remember one effeminate history teacher who we frightened the bejesus out of. The guys in question had been reprimanded by him for something. They walked into his class toting bottles and bricks, giving him threatening looks.
When his back was turned (he was writing on the board) , the bottle was passed from the back of the class up to the front and placed in the aisle, beside an empty desk. then the brick was sailed along the floor, sort of like bowling. It smashed the bottle, and the teacher thought that the bottle had been thrown at him. You should have seen how high he jumped! :)

There were one or two near fights between teachers and students in the upper years, but they were few and far between. I don’t know of or remember parents coming and dusting the teacher out for disciplinary actions they had taken on the students though….

16 05 2008
Christine

What has been going on now a days is disgusting an out a place. Sometimes we can’t even blame parents all the times and i have to say that now a days children are not like first time who once use to be discipline. We have to blame society a lot to encourage certain demonic and killer music to come across our future generation.The damn air needs filtering!!!!!!!!!. Why not try to keep the air fresh without absorbing marrow a go fly, shoot them, if yu dis mi bullet a go fly through face.Think about it people isn’t the world bad enough so why makes it worst? If am not responsible for my self at the age of 10-17 and every day i here them sort of music saying shoot them if them dis yu, how could things get better? CLEAN DI AIR MR GOVERNMENT, YOU ARE STRAYING!!!!!!!!! OUR CHILDREN ARE WAISTING,PLEEEEEEEEEEESE…………………….

27 06 2008
Nickiesha

The breakdown in values at the societal level is the single greatest contributing factor to these kinds of “impish, rude, violent and classless behaviour” we see being demonstrated by our nation’s school age children.
Running a close second is the absence of core family values. I figure while parents realise the importance of getting an education they are enrolling their children merely as formality because it is a requirement. They enroll them and leave them to run wild at the failing hands of teachers whose focus is placed increasingly on discipline rather than the curriculum these days.
Its horrendous! It scares me to know that this is the career path I have chosen. However, because I am a vehicle of change and am known to have positive influences on people, I continue to battle on!

19 07 2008
Marlon

No nonsense indeed!!!! I totally stand with my teachers in Ja., being a past teacher myself who has migrated to the USA. I say its about time the teachers take a stand against the indiscipline of these children in today’s society. It only leaves one to wonder what kind of Jamaica we will have in the next few years when these rotten and irreverent children become adults.
It also leaves one to wonder what their parents are going to do when the children they sheild and backed and were willing to behead a teacher for when they are being corrected and repremanded for their bad behaviour turns out to be a failure at education and lands up in some undesirable place- who will they blame?…am sure some will still blame the teachers as many have being doing for their’s and their child’s indiscipline and failures.

I again say more powers to you my teachers I know that it takes heart to get up each day to go and stand before these kids and give them your all, despite the fact that the bad ones seems to outnumber the good. I know there are some good kids out there and they are the reasons why you do what you do.

Blessings to you all and I implore you please pray for our kids and our beloved Jamaica that they will wake up and save the land that we all love so much. The country that myself and the thousands others who are here in the US and other places would like to come back to to live and relax in peace and without fear that we will be robbed or killed by some kid who got lost.
Peace!!!

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